Registration and Licensing Committee
Update 07/2008
NC SAF members:
As most of you know, The NC Division of SAF has committed to addressing the need for improving the NC Forester Registration Law, Chapter 89B of the General Statutes. Reasons outlining the current deficiencies of the law and needed improvements are detailed in the attached items. As shown in the attachments, a primary focus of the proposed change is protection of landowners and their resources by ensuring that individuals offering professional forestry services are qualified to do so and are held equally accountable to established ethical standards. At the same time, this proposal in no way places any restrictions on what landowners choose to do on their own property.
The proposed draft is a result of input from many of you individually and also collectively at SAF chapter, state and APSAF meetings over the past 4 years. The SAF draft has been further refined through involvement with several other groups and agencies to create an effective advancement for forestry in NC while eliminating potential concerns identified in the early drafts.
While creating this improved product has been an extended process, equally challenging will be getting it approved in the legislative arena. Most items introduced as bills in the General Assembly do not get implemented. Primarily those which do become law have strong sponsorship inside the General Assembly in both chambers as well as strong constituency involvement on the outside.
Therefore, if you are interested in seeing that fair and ethical standards are established for those practicing as professional foresters, your involvement is critical.
Three primary areas of action are needed.
First, Farm Bureau, the largest landowner organization in NC, is a potential supporter who could be very helpful with this effort. Its legislative priorities are created from inputs by its county organizations. SAF needs you to contact county Farm Bureau committee members in your area, personally if possible, or at least by phone and explain the value of this change to the FB membership. These committees are working right now on setting priorities, so the quicker the better. Also, if you are a Farm Bureau member, please speak up within the organization.
Secondly, the more specific cases we can document of “so called” foresters taking advantage of landowners , the stronger our justification is. Please send to me specific situations you are aware of which could have been effected by this proposed law change.
Thirdly, as stated above, we will need as much support as possible within the General Assembly. Many of you have contacts, directly or indirectly, that can help with this. Contact your legislators and explain the need for this action. Please let me know of any of them whom you feel will be willing to help with this effort in the next session which begins in January, 2009.
More detail on this issue is included in the attachments. Please review them and share them with others to help make this improvement in the law possible.
Attachments are:
Feel free to contact me if you have questions and please let me know results of your contacts.
Derryl Walden
RF 705
Chair, NC Div SAF Licensing & Registration Committee
Update Sept. 07
The Licensing and Registration Committee of the
NC Division of APSAF has spent extensive time evaluating
and revising Chapter 89B of NC General Statutes which
addresses registration of foresters in NC.
The committte has obtained feedback and inputs from
other forestry groups working with SAF to revise
this Chapter.
To download a copy of the Sept 07 update, right
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MS Word format. Changes have been tracked using MS
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File: NCApSAF_Chapter_89B_draft_Sept07.doc
Update 1/16/07
The Licensing and Registration Committee of the
NC Division of APSAF has spent extensive time evaluating
and revising
Chapter 89B of NC General Statutes which addresses
registration of foresters in NC.
The committte has
obtained feedback and inputs from other
forestry groups working with SAF to revise this
Chapter.
To download a copy of the 1/16/07 update, right
click on the file name and select Save Target As...
Then save to your computer. Note: The file is in
MS Word format. Changes have been tracked using
MS Word's track changes option. If this option is
not turned on in your version of MS Word you may
not see all of the revisions.
File: Chapter 89B Foresters Jan 16_07 draft.doc
September, 2005
The Licensing and Registration Committee of the
NC Division of APSAF has spent extensive time evaluating
and revising
Chapter 89B of NC General Statutes which
addresses registration of foresters in NC. Among
factors considered in evaluating the current law
were significant input from SAF membership, deficiencies
identified by current and past Board of Registration
members, review of similar laws in NC and other states,
and previous legal inputs on the current law from
attorneys at the AG office and the NC Rules Review
Commission.
A very broad area of experience in forestry is represented
by the SAF committee membership that developed the
attached proposal. Members are:
- Derryl Walden-chair, retired DFR
- Ed Hicks, CF
- Rick Hamilton, Extension Forestry
- Carlyle Franklin, NCSU
- Tony Doster, IPCO
- Jim Sitts, Columbia Forest Products
- Danny Isom, Squires Timber Co.
- Melissa Begley, Urban Forestry-Greensboro
- Barry New, DFR
- John Monroe,CF
Proposed
changes include limiting the practice of
professional forestry to those registered or working
within the direction of a RF; changing from a criminal
law to a civil law; clarifying points related to
use of the forester title, CFE requirements, and
Board (BORF) responsibilities; and other items identified
in the proposal utilizing the strike through/underline
method with red print. One area that the committee
has deferred to BORF is a determination as to what
fees and renewal costs would be appropriate to support
the revised law.
Much discussion occurred within the committee on
the definitions; on whether to change “registration” to “licensing”;
on whether to have separate requirements for Urban
Forestry; on the exemptions; and, really, on all
aspects of the law. We now feel, having considered
many perspectives, this proposal, if enacted into
law, will be a very fair and appropriate law, much
superior to what now exists. Issues of importance
to the Committee which didn’t lend themselves
to being included in the law are added at the end
of the draft as recommendations to BORF.
As approved by the NC Executive Committee in September
2004, the L&R Committee recommends that this
proposal now be placed on the NC Division of APSAF
website to ensure all SAF members have the opportunity
to review it and that efforts to discuss the proposal
with other interested parties begin. All SAF members,
as well as other interested parties, are encouraged
to participate in the process as this proposal moves
toward legislative action.
OVERVIEW AND TALKING
POINTS ON SAF REGISTRATION LAW PROPOSAL
Feb 04 BORF put together a paper to make RF’s
aware of issues including weaknesses in the registration
law. Other weaknesses and unclear points not in the
paper have also been identified.
Weaknesses include-
- Forester title restriction –very easily
manipulated by non- RF’s
- law basically limits and controls only those
who are registered with very little impact on those
who are not
- no control at all on those non-RF’s practicing
bad or dishonest forestry
- criminal act- cant be realistically enforced & is
much more tightly interpreted
- limits on Board to do the job; i.e. no authority
to give warnings, no hardship exemptions on CFE’s, & state
attorney questioned authority of rules that aren’t
specifically in law like code of ethics, right
to reject inappropriate CF affidavits, etc
SAF- discussed at Asheville 04 summer mtg– set
committee: Walden, Hamilton, Hicks, Franklin
We attended all chapter meetings held in fall &early
winter to discuss and also sent mailing to every
member seeking input.
Met in Columbia at APSAF w/ all NC members to discuss
inputs and get more
A large majority of all inputs wanted a stronger
law that included an authority to practice forestry
provision
Executive Comm directed that the committee be expanded
and a proposed draft be developed to improve the
law
They added to the committee Jim Sitts(Columbia Forest
Products). Tony Doster (IPCO), John Monroe (Consultant),
Barry New (DFR),Melissa Begley(UF-Greensboro),Danny
Isom (Squires Timber)
Very diverse group in terms of employment and experience
(& 2 former Chairs of the BORF)
Group spent 5 months looking at inputs received
from Chapters and members; at other laws; and just
evaluating pro’s &con’s of current
law vs possible improvements
Key Points and changes in proposal:
- Retain registration instead of licensing
- No longer just title act, also limits practice
of professional forestry to RF’s
- Allows exemptions to others working in forestry,
but not as professional foresters
- Eliminates loopholes allowing misuse of forester
title
- Changes from a criminal law to a civil law- much
easier to enforce
- Allows Board to exempt hardship cases from CFE’s
on an annual basis
- Improves definitions, using SAF definitions where
possible
- Calls for representation of all major areas of
forestry on Board
- Clarifies Boards role and authority
- Clarifies other areas not specific in current
law, like reciprocity, renewal of registration
after dropping out, etc
- Establishes penalties for non-RF’s who
violate the law
- Provides for all RF’s to be identified
by job areas, not just CF’s
- Issue of having separate standards and conditions
for Urban Foresters was discussed and explored
extensively, but ultimately committee agreed that
all foresters should have same requirements and
standards for registration ( see recommendations
attached to draft law)
- Exemptions were developed to be broad enough
not to prevent non- RF’s from doing their
jobs as long as they are not independently practicing
professional forestry. Also real emphasis included
to not prevent land owners from having authority
over their own land.
The committee tried to establish parameters and
standards in the law while leaving as much of the
detail as possible for the Board to develop through
the rule making process. This way, as future changes
are needed, these could be handled through rule changes
rather than having to change the law. The committee
has included several suggestions to the Board to
consider in this process.
Walden
11-14-2005
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